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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2009, Sat 14:56 
Модель строилась из набора Mamoli. Требование заказчика – модель должна быть построена из материалов входящих в набор с минимальными доработками и изменениями.

The model was under construction of set Mamoli. The requirement of the customer – the model should be constructed of materials entering in a set with the minimal completions and changes.


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PostPosted: 05 Oct 2009, Mon 12:25 
Не вероятно предположить что это model kit.
It is not probable to assume that it is model kit.

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2009, Tue 02:23 
not look like a model kit
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не похожа на модель комплекта


 
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PostPosted: 15 Oct 2009, Thu 22:39 
Я прав преполагая, что сначала были наклеены медные пластины, а потом уже на них были нанесена имитация клепок?

Am I right assuming that firstly were glued copper plates and then they were marked rivets imitation ?


 
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PostPosted: 15 Oct 2009, Thu 23:19 
Нет. Сначала подготовлена пластина с имитацией гвоздей , и затем прикреплена к борту. Я так думаю.
No. First the plate with imitation of nails is prepared, and then attached to a board. I so think.

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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2009, Tue 15:46 
Доброго всем дня! beaver, собираю "Сюрприз", только Латиновский, возникло затруднение с правильным стоячим такелажем бушприта, не можете помочь, привести схему как делали Вы?

Kind all day! beaver , I collect "Surprise", only Latinovsky, there was a difficulty with a correct standing rigging bowsprit, cannot help, result the scheme as you did?


 
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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2009, Tue 16:05 
Без проблем
взято из книги Л.Петерссон Rigging period ship models

No problems
It is taken from L.Petersson's Rigging book period ship models


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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2009, Tue 16:43 
Спасибо! Я по этой книге весь такелаж буду переделывать. Смущало что на книжной схеме показан один ватерштаг. Это принципиально? А утлегарь-штаг как будете делать, как в книге? В инструкции к моему "Сюрпризу" советуют через нок выстрела бушприта развести его просто на борта под крамболы, рядом с коренными концами ватерштагов(что и насторожило). А бом-утлегарь-штаг через тот-же выстрел на форштевень, вместо ватерштага.

Thanks! I under this book will alter all rigging. Confused that on the book scheme one is shown bobstay. It essentially? And inner martingale as will do, how in the book? In the instruction to my "Surprise" advise through top a shot bowsprit to dissolve it simply on boards under cathead, near to the radical ends bobstay (as has guarded). And outer martingale through that shot on a stem, instead of bobstay.


 
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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2009, Tue 19:34 
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Нет. Сначала подготовлена пластина с имитацией гвоздей , и затем прикреплена к борту. Я так думаю.
No. First the plate with imitation of nails is prepared, and then attached to a board. I so think.

Но вот здесь download/file.php?id=4084&mode=view вроде по другому.

But here download/file.php?id=4084&mode=view we can see another.


 
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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2009, Tue 20:42 
[quote="kosmos14045"] на книжной схеме показан один ватерштаг. Это принципиально?

разработчики Мамоли изначально нарисовали два и на чертежах Марквардта тоже два. так и оставил.

А утлегарь-штаг как будете делать, как в книге? В инструкции к моему "Сюрпризу" советуют через нок выстрела бушприта развести его просто на борта под крамболы, рядом с коренными концами ватерштагов(что и насторожило). А бом-утлегарь-штаг через тот-же выстрел на форштевень, вместо ватерштага.

далее все по книге, потому как в наборе мягко говоря недосмотрели очень многое. сейчас вот заказчику паруса захотелось, сижу ломаю голову как на марсы 12 блоков прицепить при установленных вантах :?

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медная обшивка клеилась на "Момент" поэтому ее приходилось притирать и при этом частично разгладилась имитация гвоздей, пришлось набивать вручную (грустное занятие :D ). пуансон для пластин - латунная пластина с вставленными переточенными иглами от шприца и прикрепленной ручкой . фольга нарезана на полосы с имитацией поперечных швов. далее все просто, к деревянному бруску крепим направляющую линейку, ложим полосу фольги и ставим оттиск пуансоном (под низ подложить кусок линолеума или чего либо подобного). впоследствии наклеиваем всю полосу по длине на модель.

[quote= " of kosmos14045 "] on the book diagram is shown one bobstay. This principally?

developers [Mamoli] originally drew two, also, on the drawings of Marquardt also two. so it left.

And inner martingale as will do, how in the book? In the instruction to my "Surprise" advise through top a shot bowsprit to dissolve it simply on boards under cathead, near to the radical ends bobstay (as has guarded). And outer martingale through that shot on a stem, instead of bobstay.

further all according to the book, therefore as in the collection putting it mildly missed very much. now here to the customer of sail it was wanted, I do sit I do break head as to the mastheads of 12 blocks to hitch with the established shrouds:?

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copper skin was glued at “Moment” therefore it it was necessary to grind and in this case partially it was smoothed out the imitation of nails, it was necessary to fill by hand (sad occupation: D). punch for the plates - brass plate with the inserted resharpened needles from the syringe and the fastened knob. foil is cut to the strips with the imitation of the transverse seams. further everything is simple, to the wooden bar we attach the master straightedge, lie down the strip of foil and we place impression by punch (under the bottom to place the piece of linoleum or what or similar). we subsequently stick entire strip lengthwise on the model.

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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, Tue 17:20 
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Спасибо. Делаю нечто подобное только вместо латуни пользуюсь самшитом...

Thank's. But I try to do somethink like this from boxwood...


 
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